Dresden Bombing: Britain’s Forgotten War Crime of WWII

By Press TV

While Britain claims to be an advocate of human rights in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and many other countries around the world, British history itself is corroborating evidence that Britain, the greatest human rights preacher, has also been the most flagrant human rights breacher.

More than 500,000 German civilians and refugees, mostly women and children, were slaughtered by Britain’s saturation bombing in 1945, one of the worst massacres of all time.

Over 700,000 phosphorus bombs were dropped on 1.2 million defenseless inhabitants of German city Dresden under Britain’s then Prime Minister Winston Churchill’s order, which not only reduced one of the greatest centers of northern Europe to flaming ruins, but also led to one of the worst war crimes of the Second World War.

Dresden’s bombing in February, 13, 1945 was so relentless that some historians believe it was the height of Winston Churchill’s madness.

“I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau,” Churchill said once.

Toward the end of the war, Churchill’s desired firestorm was finally created. More than 260,000 bodies and residues of bodies were counted after British Royal Air Force (RAF) and the United States Army Air Force (USAAF) assaulted Dresden. However, those who perished in the centre of the city could not be traced, as the temperature in the area reached 1600 degree Centigrade.

Dresden’s citizens barely had time to reach their shelters and those who sought refuge underground often suffocated as oxygen was pulled from the air to feed the flames. Others perish in a blast of white heat, heat strong enough to melt human flesh.

When the bombing started, no one could imagine that in less than 24 hours all those innocent people could die screaming in Churchill’s firestorms.

If there was a war crime, certainly the Dresden tragedy would rank as one of the most sinister of all time. Sadly, however, Churchill, who ordered the slaughter of up to a half million innocent people in this horrifying tragedy, was knighted by Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II in 1953.

The British queen made Churchill a knight of the Order of the Garter, Britain’s highest order of knighthood.

 

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  1. Christoffer Geijer March 8, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

    As awful as the Dresden bombing was, the casualty figure stated in your article is false, originating by deliberate exaggerations by Propaganda Minister Goebbels in the wake of the bombings. The latest and thought most accurate figure (established by historians and official German investigations) is between 20,000 and 25,000 dead. The revised numbers do not diminish the tragedy, but careless conduct with the false and inflated figures are by dishonest “revisionists” to blur the picture and should be corrected.

    • Ariadna Theokopoulos March 8, 2013 at 10:33 pm #

      1. Your sources? Please list them.
      2. What “picture” risks being “blurred”?

      • Christoffer Geijer March 10, 2013 at 6:32 pm #

        Sources:
        The most prominent source is the German History Commission’s report (“Abschlussbericht
        der Historikerkommission zu den Luftangriffen auf Dresden zwischen dem 13. und 15. Februar 1945”)
        . Commissioned by the city of Dresden and composed of leading German scholars and city officials, it spent six years to investigate all sides of the bombings and their aftermath with the special directive to reach a conclusive account of the number of victims. On 96 pages, it presents it thoroughgoing investigations and findings. It concluded that up to 25,000 people were killed in the bombings 13-15 February 1945, which coincides with the official figure that the city of Dresden concluded in 1945-1946.

        A link to the downloadable report (pdf):
        http://www.dresden.de/media/pdf/infoblaetter/Historikerkommission_Dresden1945_Abschlussbericht_V1_14a.pdf

        Blurred picture
        By falsifying and/or inflating casualty numbers of allied actions (such as Dresden), revisionists attempt to prove that the allies were just as bad as the Germans during WWII in terms of atrocities. By simultaneously playing down or even denying established Holocaust figures, they seek to downplay and relativise German atrocities (crimes against humanity and war crimes), and spread the distorted view that they were no different than the allied conduct of war. Which of course is grossly false!

      • Christoffer Geijer March 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

        I should add that the commission’s report was published in 2010.

    • fmo March 8, 2013 at 11:10 pm #

      Would you agree Christoffer that…
      Careless conduct with the false and inflated figures are used by dubious dishonest “revisionists” to blur the picture and should be corrected.
      …with regard the holocaust?

      • Christoffer Geijer March 10, 2013 at 6:35 pm #

        If you mean that the “revisionists” are trying to use the inflated figures to blur the and confuse the true picture of the holocaust – then yes.

        • fmo March 11, 2013 at 10:39 pm #

          I’m glad you cordially concur Christoffer with my observation. It can only be a beneficial thing for all humanity that more people, such as your good self, are gaining the courage to expose these dubitable duplicitous revisionists who are still to this day exploiting the memory of the holocaust by extorting monies and nuclear submarines from the German peoples (especially so from those who weren’t even alive during WW2) for greatly exaggerated imagined atrocities and not so long ago tried it on with, to name but one of many example’s, the Swiss, in this here holocaust shake down racket.
          Ref:
          At the time of publication, Raul Hilberg’s favourite bedtime read;
          “The Holocaust Industry” 2003 second edition chapter 3
          by Norman Finklestein

          • Christoffer Geijer March 12, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

            It seems that we are on different tracks. The conduct of the state of Israel or various organizations is totally irrelevant for the factual accounts of the holocaust. The holocaust happened, pretty much as the picture painted by established history. And the Jewish people is not to blame. It happened independent of Israel and the various claims initiatives that seem to bother you. Don’t try to mix things up. You may dispute the legitimacy of Israeli conduct and the financial claims on Germany made by other initiatives, but don’t diminish the horrible chapter in European history we have come to call the Holocaust. That is just low.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos March 12, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

            “The holocaust happened, pretty much as the picture painted by established history. And the Jewish people is not to blame.”

            Are you totally unaware of how much even those in charge of confecting “established history” have been forced to retract some of the inflated imaginary numbers of dead at concentration camps? (see:the commemorative plaque changed at Auschwitz to subtract a couple of million “dead”?) Of how many fake “testimonials” have been exposed as fraud?
            Are you perhaps, as a friend of mine memorably said once, one of those Jews indignant and outraged that revisionist historians are trying to deprive a few million Jews of horrible “holocaust” death?

          • Christoffer Geijer March 12, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

            No Adriana, I hate to disappoint you, but I neither Jewish nor indignant. I am a Swedish national of (partly) German decent. There is no space here to go into deeper argumentation about your statement, but I can tell you this: The established “holocaust” death toll of somewhere between 5,000,000 and 6,000,000 is well supported and is not based on the previous claim on the former Auschwitz plaque, which was pure and careless communist propaganda without any scientific support. It has never been confirmed by or included by serious (Western) historians or in official (Western) accounts. Since the fall of socialism in Poland, the plaque has been corrected, as you probably already know.
            But your are almost right about one thing: I am perhaps not outraged about revisionists’ sinister endeavour, but I am determined not to let it pass undisputed. Why? Because I believe that it is important that the truth is upheld in a world so keen to distort it. So there you have it.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos March 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm #

            Allow me to consider you an honorary zionist jew. The way you bandy about the word “truth” without the slightest regard to its actual meaning makes you the honorary zionist Jew at Alice in Wonderland’s tea party. More “truth” in more comments from you? I think not. I think you’re tapped out.

          • fmo March 12, 2013 at 11:13 pm #

            Christoffer;
            “It seems that we are on different tracks.”
            Oh dear. I hope you don’t mean train tracks? That would be a rather unfortunate faux pas.
            “The holocaust happened,”
            Yup, I think the evidence is compelling that everybody in the world, nay, the universe has now heard that the holocaust happened, loud and clear. So what’s new?
            Ref;
            “Space Shuttle Columbia: Mission of Hope,”
            http://www.space.com/19539-columbia-shuttle-astronaut-holocaust-scroll-film.html
            Now, the one small gripe with the holocaust’s established historical picture is that it’s always a work in progress that appears to be sketched on an endless bog-roll, oh yes and not forgetting the dramatically ever changing “facts”. Listen up and I’ll tell you what I mean.
            Millions, yes millions of children have been brought up on and exposed to a diet of concentration camp horror stories for decades. You know, murder mills of Dachau, jew soap, jew skin lampshades, 4 mil at Auschwitz, Buchenwald etc. and as a child one believes it and is, to varying degrees, traumatised by it. Well as time has gone by, 68yrs, the “facts” have changed so many times, I think it only prudent to employ a little scepticism for the sake of one’s sanity. Elie Wiesel for instance, to name but one of many, is testament to the effects of over-dosing on too many anxiety inducing Shoah snacks, which has been documented to cause an unshakeable belief in pure fantasy.
            “Don’t try to mix things up.”
            What do you mean? Like… er… Truth and Lies?
            The holocaust “established history” said jews were gassed at Dachau. Do you still believe they were?
            For your information I have yet to “mix” the ingredients, I’m still gathering them. But as things stand with me, I doubt very much a burnt bagel or a nazi gateaux for that matter, will be popping out the oven any time soon.
            “That is just low.”
            Is that how you describe factual truth? I suppose “high lie” does rhyme though… whatever.

          • Ariadna Theokopoulos March 13, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

            fmo, at first a I laughed at your train tracks rejoinder but then I realized how WRONG that was:
            I had forgotten for a brief moment that one can use humor or irony and make light of any and all fictions unless they have been consecrated and are to be forever held as sacred and set in stone.
            Your Columbia shuttle allusion makes me wonder how you can so completely miss the significance of the sacred H scrolls being carried on it. It is obvious to me that it represents an acknowledgement of the completion of the mission of H H (Holocaust hasbara)saturation in all essential corners of our planet and that space is indeed “the last frontier.”
            Your comments on the kosher skin lampshades and soap also show that you have failed to internalize the subtle and profound definition of Truth, as explained by HH scholars like Abe Foxman, Dershowitz, et al, namely that Truth has nothing at all to do with facts since it only resides in “emotional truth.”

          • Christoffer Geijer March 13, 2013 at 7:55 am #

            I notice that the moderator has deleted my latest reply to Ariadna. Why? It was polite and answering questions that Ariadna asked. Can you please explain why you would censor it? Aren’t you open to free debate?

          • Christoffer Geijer March 13, 2013 at 8:00 am #

            Sorry, my wrong! Please disregard/delete my latest post. It was my browser cache that didn’t display my post and made me believe it had been deleted. Again, please forgive for my premature assumption.

          • Christoffer Geijer March 13, 2013 at 2:47 pm #

            I have to agree with you that there has been unfortunate disinformation and confusion regarding the atrocities committed by Nazi-Germany throughout the years. All the more reason to set the record straight by cleansing the disinformation from the truth (I don’t use the term “facts” because the evidence at hand is not conclusive enough to allow any definite figures etc.). But narrowing it down towards truth is not served by new distortion and disinformation. True revision looks at the evidence at hand without any other objective than finding out. And there is sufficient hard evidence for concluding that the German atrocities (holocaust and other systematic crimes) happened, were sanctioned by the regime, and resulted in somewhere in the vicinity of the estimated casualties figures used by serious, established historians today.
            And no, we can not conclusivly prove there were any “homicidal gassings” at Dachau.

      • Christoffer Geijer March 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm #

        Ariadna and fmo: As witty your sarcasm and word play may be, they won’t bring you closer to the truth or understanding of the Nazi period. So let continue my dull prose by bluntly ask you this:
        – Do you believe that Nazi Germany implemented a systematic program of extermination (killing) of jews in particular and other ethnic, political and national groups?
        – Do you accept that the “T4” euthanasia program happened?
        – Is it true that the “Operation Reinhard” operated as extermination camps, killing hundreds of thousands?
        – Are the accounts of the mass killings by the Einsatzgruppen fact or fiction?
        – Was there a gas chamber at Ravensbrück?
        – Is Otto Moll’s interrogation in the presence of Rudolf Höss a factual account or is it invented?
        Eager to hear your replies. And it would help if you could drop the irony…

        • Ariadna Theokopoulos March 14, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

          I suggest you go and get some serious reading done. You can start slowly and gently by reading everything on this site:
          http://pauleisen.blogspot.com/. Later you may progress to more bibliography.
          Don’t come back to repeat the same tired refrain about “truth” until you are at least partially de-hasbarized. Until then I will disallow your further repetitive comments that only clog up this site without adding anything of interest, let alone informational value.

          • Christoffer Geijer March 14, 2013 at 6:14 pm #

            So much for for free free intellectual speech. I suppose this will be barred, since you have decided what lines the debate should follow. No answers, just continued anti semitic paranoia. What’s with you and the Jew thing anyway? Just as I have used the banned T-word in every post, you have mixed something negative about Jews in every one of posts. You know, Zionism, Israel and Jewry are not the same, but I guess you don’t care about such distinctions. Seems you have some reading to do as well…

          • fmo March 15, 2013 at 12:42 am #

            Ariadna;
            ” until you are at least partially de-hasbarized.”
            Yes, interesting. When CG used the phrase;
            “The holocaust happened, pretty much as the picture painted by established history.”
            It reminded me of mathis nigh on a year ago;
            March 28, 2012
            ” things (holocaust) happened pretty much as has been recorded.”

        • fmo March 14, 2013 at 11:59 pm #

          Christoffer;
          “And no, we can not conclusivly prove there were any “homicidal gassings” at Dachau.”
          We? You should have let this American narrator and Alfred Hitchcock know, before they made these erroneous fantasy commentaries;
          3:38mins
          Part of a documentary Motion Picture, film shown at the Nuremberg Trial, 29 November 1945,
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evnx4oWle20&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL4B099787AEC20C37
          5:25mins
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IUuMtGFTrs
          Anyway, you heard Ariadna, go and do some honest study, at least for your own sake.

          • Christoffer Geijer March 16, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

            Surely you must grant to publish a reply to your suggested viewing of the linked videos? I clicked to see the Hitchcock movie, which is well known to me before. It was shot 1n 1945 but never released. And that might have been a good thing, because of the three obscurities the narration contains (and I believe you focus):
            1. Dachau did indeed have a gas chamber, but there is no evidence that it was ever used, nor what it’s intended purpose was. It was, however, equipped with dummy showers… That does not mean that Dachau prisoners wern’t gassed, but it was done in the gas chamber of the Hartheim euthanasia centre.
            2. Buchenwald tattoos: The legend about the use of tattooed human skin for different purposes by the SS has never been proven. During the GDR-era, a lampshade claimed to be made by tattooed human skin was on the display. It was researched immediately after the fall of the GDR and disproved as a synthetic material. (See the similarity to the inflated Auschwitz death figure by the socialists?)
            3. Tattooed inmate number: Prisoner numbers were not tattooed in Buchenwald, only in Auschwitz with sub camps. Priosners from Auschwitz were however transferred between Auschwitz and Buchenwald occasionally. Hitchcock’s film was made in 1945, so there it is no wonder if there were conflicting and confusing testimony at the time. It has all been revised since.

          • fmo March 17, 2013 at 11:33 pm #

            Christoffer
            The issue of whether permission to reply is or is not granted, is not my call. As has been stated above, the said permission will be determined on the quality of your replies i.e. de-hasbarized;
            Jovial and friendly
            Exemplary behaviour
            Written word, nothing absurd
            Lean and to the point
            Expressed with care
            Sane and
            Sensible
            .
            “I clicked to see the Hitchcock movie, which is well known to me before.”
            Both videos that I linked to in reference to the Dachau gas chamber had a similar narrative. Your answer gives the impression that you believe the relevant narratives were different, such that the first video was void of “obscurities”.
            “(and I believe you focus)”
            You believe incorrectly. The linked videos were specifically time referenced to deal with the “homicidal gassings” at Dachau” as discussed previously.
            “…there is no evidence that it was ever used, nor what it’s intended purpose was.”
            Ok, so both video clips relating to the “homicidal gassings at Dachau” are false and misleading?
            “but it was done in the gas chamber of the Hartheim euthanasia centre.”
            Reference please.
            “The legend about the use of tattooed human skin for different purposes by the SS has never been proven.”
            Just another “obscurity” in the narrative I take it?
            Human skin lampshade: “It was researched immediately after the fall of the GDR and disproved as a synthetic material.”
            Reference please.
            “…tattoos…”
            A little presumptuous with the scent of straw, doncha think?
            “…so there it is no wonder if there were conflicting and confusing testimony at the time.”
            Listen again, neither narrator conveyed a hint of confusion or conflict in their descriptions.
            “It has all been revised since.”
            Is that “thanks to the revisionists” I’m hearing you say?

  2. Richard Edmondson March 9, 2013 at 2:30 am #

    I read somewhere that of the total deaths in Dresden, 20,000 alone were trombone players. I think you may be confusing them with the total dead.

    • Christoffer Geijer March 10, 2013 at 6:50 pm #

      Sorry, but no. But trombone players are likely to be included in the tragic 25,000 figure.

  3. etominusipi March 10, 2013 at 3:49 am #

    death by Fire – Churchill was well under Khazarian control by the late 1930’s. the Dresden atrocity is remarkably similar (in “artistic conception”) to the thermobaric mayhem which terminated the first Gulf “War”. the February date suggests purim-thinking, i.e. the indulgence in massacre for its own sake, interpreted in terms of a self-serving compensation myth concerning the tribal deity “yahwe” – James Joyce’s “collector of prepuces” – a demigod which gained strength when grafted onto the Kazar cult of phallocentric bloodthirstiness.

    and yet so effective was wartime propaganda that the majority of English people regarded Churchill as their saviour.

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